I thought ben's comment on the idea of camp as resistance was really interesting. But I was wondering if it isn't problematic to say so unanimously that 'camp itself has become mainstream.' I think it's true that, like Ien Ang notes, that "it would be mistaken to see the acting out of difference unambiguously as an act of resistance," but that it's important to reserve the place of camp's ambiguity, its important uncertainty, instead of necessarily implying a point of transformation where camp stopped being camp and became mainstream camp. You could also say that camp was never really so much a subversion of dominant idealogies, as it was a reinforcement of them, if you consider resistance as complicit in capitalist postmodernity, a necessary and built-in, "programmed feature of capitalist culture."